The following comments were given to the Library Board and Design Team
(LB/DT) by public attendees of the September 12th and October 14th General
Public Integration Meetings and by telephone, e-mail and FAX communications.
The comments are organized into general categories and the responses
from the LB/DT are listed after each comment
or common group of comments in italics
Comments: The building should be right on Main Street with all outdoor spaces
to the south. It is important to continue the Main Street edge.
Perhaps you could push the building up toward Main like the rest of
the neighborhood and utilize more of the grounds to the south. I realize
that this is a major change but a cohesive downtown is not necessarily
a boring downtown.
Love the idea of a Main Street Plaza. It should have circulation at
the east and west edges preserving a large open area for gathering directly
in front of the Library.
The public plaza is needed on Bozeman’s Main Street. Overall,
it is great!
It is a natural that the Main Street Plaza should serve as the gateway
to the Sweet Pea Festival. Sweet Pea access is 3,000 per day for 3 days
who will use this access to the park.
Many still want the building on Main Street, and to have a very stately
o formal presence. But, I ask can we afford to give up the most valuable
asset, that being commercial frontage on Main Street, lost future revenues
for the Library?
Response:
After the initial site analysis phase, the LB directed the
DT to begin schematic design with the scenario of setting the Library back
from Main Street and creating an urban plaza. This decision was made based
on the following factors:
• The intrinsic nature of a library calls for the creation of a quiet
and contemplative place. Setting the building on the bustling and noisy
environment of Main Street would be entirely appropriate for a retail or
office use but not for the Library. The potential to create this quiet
and contemplative environment for the Library is immense with the connection
to Lindley Park and views to the Bridger Mountains that exist in the part
of the site set back from Main Street. • There is a current lack of outdoor “civic” space in Bozeman fronting
Main Street. The Library site offers unique potential for the creation
of a truly urban civic space. To not take advantage of the potential
on this site for this space would be an enormous lost opportunity. • The historical precedent of outdoor spaces located on the public
side of libraries and other civic centers is a strong notion to follow.
These plazas serve to heighten the civic quality of the facilities and
can act as a catalyst to promote other activities that will expose non-users
to the services provided by the Library.
Comments:
Rotary Club would like to donate native plant material to plaza landscaping.
A suggestion for some money for the plaza, I think I mentioned to you
that the Montana Native Plant Society gives grants, they are small (maybe
up to $10,000) but incorporating native plants into the plaza might be
an idea and a way to leverage some additional money.
The LB/DT will investigate these potential funding and donation
sources.
Provide ice-skating in the Main Street Plaza.
We don’t want to compete with other areas in town, but will
consider.
Provide a special place for a large community Christmas tree in the Main
Street Plaza close to the street edge.
Great idea!
Look at a more permanent entry into Lindley Park.
We want to provide an entry into Lindley Park, but not THE
entry to the Park. Therefore we must be careful with how large we make
that statement.
Consider how Main Street noise can be buffered from activities in the plaza.
We do not want to create a barrier between the street and
the plaza. The goal is to enliven the plaza to the greatest extent possible.
Don’t show grove planting as formal, architectural planting design only
works if you can guarantee tree survival formal planting design works well
here.
There are appropriate uses for grove planting. Civic plazas
have been good examples of these uses. We will investigate both formal
and informal planting schemes.
Native grasses at front of project are as unnatural at this spot as palm
trees in downtown Bozeman.
We will rethink this idea.
Make trees & planting in plaza more floral.
Changing color will help enliven the plaza.
Use native vegetation that has low water use as much as possible. Anything
that requires a lot of maintenance will look terrible within a year or
two.
Concerned about appropriate use of “native grass” area on Main Street,
especially the ability of the grasses to withstand traffic.
Look at species of vegetation that can withstand foot traffic.
How will noise pollution in Plaza be controlled?
The rock structure outside in the public meeting area – this will be
attractive to children for a climbing gym.
Library building should be sited closer to Main Street, if not on Main.
The architect claimed the Library would be clearly visible from Main.
I find this contention absurd. The proposed building site appears
to be about 300 feet south of Main, with a two-story office building to
the west and the furniture store near Main on the east, bracketing the
Library's approximately 300-foot Main Street frontage. Perhaps that
is why the architects chose to show the north elevation by excluding both
of those buildings and the depot in front of the Library. Placement
of the depot in front further obscures the view of what appears to be an
excellent façade. If this building were closer to Main, the parking
area to the south would be much larger. The only loss would be the
array of wind turbines. Those should be moved to the rear of the
site, as their appearance detracts from the view of the building and certainly
has no esthetic tie to anything in the area. Don't hide the edifice at
the end of a visual tunnel, obscured by a depot and a dozen poles.
All of these aspects of the Plaza design will be further
studied in the remaining design phase. Currently there is no funding in
the budget for an elaborate plaza, but at this point the LB/DT believe
we should provide the space for a plaza for the reasons noted above, develop
conceptual plans for the plaza, then see if sufficient funding can be raised
to build the plaza at this time.
It is our feeling at this time that the plaza shown at the October
meeting is too large and set back too far from Main Street. It should
also become more urban in character while not losing all of the initial
informal character.
The potential for horse carriage tours of Main Street starting at the
Plaza should be provided for.
The DT will investigate this possibility. The Montana Department
of Transportation controls this part of East Main Street and will make
any decisions regarding this suggestion. It is quite probable that horse
tours will not be allowed given the current design of Main Street and the
amount of traffic it carries.
Numerous quiet places should be designed inside the building and around
the building on the exterior.
These items will be explored in detail as we move forward
into the design development phase. At this point we are trying to
get a concept established, which we can enrich with the addition of these
quiet spaces.
Plant an outdoor garden with studying areas.
Love the idea of an “arboretum” of trees w/ sculpture garden.
Provide gardens and picnic benches as well as links into the trail system.
During the design phase, the feasibility of these ideas
will be explored further. The current site and floor plan provides numerous
opportunities to create these quiet spaces.
The Audubon Society may want to use Library with its proximity to Lindley
Park for birding tours’ starting point and use the meeting rooms for education
programs.
The public meeting rooms will serve this purpose perfectly.
The design should help solve the weed problem that exists on this very
large site.
The site remediation and building project should eradicate
much of this problem as it currently exists.
Don’t show retention basins as rectangles, make them organic.
Landscape elements can be used quite effectively as architectural
elements in many forms, some of which are rectilinear.
The retention ponds uphill from natural drainage doesn’t seem to make any
sense at all.
The retention ponds are designed to catch runoff from the
parking lots, not the existing watershed. They will function by holding
the water and treating it naturally to remove oils and pollutants before
it percolates into the water table. Consequently, it should be located
at a lower elevation than the parking areas and could conceivably be at
a higher elevation than the watershed.
Look at bike rack locations.
I would like to see clear, large spaces for bike parking.
No mention of bike facilities. The City’s bicycle advisory board has
worked hard to promote a network of bike/land routes to complete the new
transportation plan. However, bike “storage” facilities are important
to encourage the alternative use of non-traditional sources. The
design team should contact the BABAB for comments and suggestions.
Bike facilities will be provided. The LB/DT sees this as
a very important aspect of the site design.
Avoid cracks and joints in all walking surfaces, bad for wheelchairs and
walkers.
Unfortunately, joints in outdoor walking surfaces are a
fact of life, particularly in Montana. They are needed to prevent cracking.
A good sub-base is critical to prevent heaving, which creates the worst
uneven surface conditions. Also, six handicapped parking spaces will be
located immediately adjacent to the entries.
Some area- perhaps below the cisterns could be used for garden plots
for schools or programs such as M.O.S.S. or maybe produce for food bank
or other charity food production.
Weird locations for community gardens.
The inclusion and location of these gardens will be further
studied in the remaining design phase.
The terrace areas outside of the lounge portion of the adult Library are
a lovely idea. How will barriers be included so patrons cannot enter
or exit the Library this way with library materials?
These terraces are currently not conceived of as being accessible
directly from the adult area due to possible theft of materials and the
need for outside walls to prevent theft. However, we are trying to find
ways to create outdoor controlled access spaces where a person can read
in the sun with a library book or non-circulating material. We will
find a way to utilize our wonderful outdoor spaces while maintaining the
security of the collections.
Reincorporate the old ski jump that used to exist at the south side of
the site.
The liability incurred by the City would make it prohibitive
to incorporate this idea.
The trail system attracts young people on mountain bikes and they are very
tempted to use the trails on the site in an unsafe manner. They go
very fast and are a danger to the public on the trails. Trails, sidewalks,
and the bridges should discourage this type of use. Also bottlenecks
that prevent people from getting out of the way of these bikes should be
avoided. It is also very important to avoid creating tempting jumps
or obstacle courses for bikes, skateboards, and skiers.
It is anticipated that the trail system will include a buffer
zone between the Library and the trails. This separation is important for
the Library users.
The design team should identify the water source in the watershed and verify
that it will be adequate to supply any accent water features.
The average annual quantity of water will be determined
for adequacy of use.
The design should address the growing problem of vagrants in Lindley Park.
Being located close to the park with its natural cover and use at all
hours, it looks like there will be a very tempting area between the building
and the hill that can not be easily checked by the police at night.
Vandalism and/or “hidden” activities could be a problem. It is an
area easy to approach and leave “under cover.” Good all night lighting
in this area could help a lot. Also avoid hidden cubby holes, there
is a whole side of the building that is not accessible by emergency vehicles,
but is accessible from a popular night time “hang out.”
The LB/DT is aware of this concern and will work to minimize
the design of hidden areas and provide lighting that will provide a more
visible and secure environment but minimize “light pollution” of the night
sky. Space between the building and the Park will be rather hidden unless
we put a road on this side of the building which we would rather not do
since it would separate the building from the Park.
All of the outdoor gathering space is on north and east, while summer makes
this wonderful, spring & fall will be cold more often than not in these
spaces.
The Main Street Plaza should be large enough that the northern
half of it will have a lot of sunshine if the Library remains a two-story
building. The north and east spaces will be wonderful summer spaces. The
DT will investigate creating more southern exposure outdoor spaces for
winter use.
Look at city bus integration into Library design.
The DT will coordinate with the Western Transportation Institute
and make accommodations for a future bus stop at the site. There will also
be discussions of the feasibility of a bus transfer station at the site,
but those requirements are not known at this time.
Residential triangles instead of access points, why bother? No
affordable housing, this property is too valuable. Don’t sell it,
keep it, build affordable elsewhere!
Those three .5 acre triangles for sale, NO we passed a bond for OPEN
SPACE, not potential funding for this Library.
Do not sell lots, might be needed for parking some day.
It is not the intention of the LB to sell the three triangles.
It is our intention to maximize their use in support of the Library project.
This probably means holding for future parking, but it is too early to
know for sure. We want to integrate our plans with the Burke Park
plans to give continuity to the development of the area and serve our community.
If any land were to be sold in the future, it would only be after thorough
study of all factors and the satisfaction of all Library and park needs.
Site Planner should get a copy of the BURKE PARK MASTER PLAN and READ IT.
This project completes Lindley Park, but it also completes Burke Park-
the city’s most popular undeveloped park. Please start incorporating
Burke Park in your comments.
Check out the Burke Park Master Plan, which calls for larger parking
lot at south triangle, it would serve Burke and Bogart Park.
I think it would be very helpful for all involved to familiarize yourselves
with the Burke Park master plan. I was disappointed that this was not one
of the elements the architects considered. They clearly spoke of the Main
Street connection, Lindley Park connection and a Green or Sustainable element.
Burke Park is about quiet space, a space for reflection. I feel the Library
needs to connect to this aspect and enhance it. It is also a dark region
within the city for stargazing. Please be aware of light pollution. It
is important that some of these characteristics are maintained for the
community and as educational purposes for the Library. The extension of
the linear trail may very well be your greatest connection to the University
and a core community population. Please think of it as a potential entrance
to the Library.
The DT has been given the Burke Park Master Plan and its
initiatives will be coordinated with the Library site planning.
What steps are going to be taken to prevent motorists from traveling down
the railroad right of way in an effort to avoid traffic congestion on Main
and Curtiss?
The DT will look at including some physical design element
that would prevent this from happening.
Who owns water rights to the ditch?
The Mill Ditch Diversion, as it is known, is not a natural
waterway and the water rights are currently owned by the City of Bozeman.
What parts of the site are contaminated with asbestos? What else is contaminated?
I want to know.
There is an environmental analysis called the Voluntary
Cleanup Plan for public review at the Library. A public meeting will be
held on November 20th at 7:00 PM at the Emerson to discuss the subject
and its solution.
Who controls the parking at the Library and who grants the change to less
parking spaces?
The City Commissioners.
Does Overland Architects own Nash Finch Building?
No, the building is owned by the SimGraf Corporation.
What is the depth of the ground water in the plaza area?
The water table is very high and will be established when
the first soil borings are done for the foundation study.
How much of “Park System” will be funded by Lindley funds? Perhaps
some of the development of site could be delayed.
We are working with the City on the Park’s side of the development.
If there is funding, the work in the Park will be done; if not, it will
have to be delayed to future phases. Project funding can only be
used for work on the Library site. This factor will affect the development
of Burke Park parking in the southern most triangle in a unique manner.
This is work for the Park, but on the Library site. We don’t know
yet who will pay for this.
I just wanted to register my opinion that I don’t think the outdoor viewing
screen is very practical in Montana! The stage / performance area is great,
though – I can see a lot of uses for that.
The concept of using the plaza for summer outdoor movies
has other problems as well, such as the noise from Main Street and headlights
affecting the image. This potentially fun idea might be better suited to
occur actually in Lindley Park where it’s quieter and darker. The plaza
might serve as the gateway to this activity.
SITE ACCESS The City should do everything possible to get an access straight through
at Babcock. Only having access onto Main Street will be a disaster.
Look at purchasing Curtis & Babcock entry locations.
It still appears that one of the greatest challenges still facing you
is your connection to Main Street. I am very concerned about the traffic
issues that this site presents. Curtiss is a one block street that dead
ends into Bogart Park to the west and the Library property to the east.
It is dangerous at best. Imagine all the traffic from the farmers’ market,
park users, swimmers and now Library users at the intersection of Curtiss
and Church Street. What have you done to mitigate traffic problems besides
the traffic light at Main Street and Wallace? This brings me to another
problem, the intersection of Wallace and Babcock. These are not fun issues,
but they should be looked at in more detail and resolved before we have
designed and placed the Library. It seems to me that a building has been
designed and placed (connection to Lindley Park) before any of the tough
lasting impacts are addressed. These are the things that will greatly impact
the neighborhood. We need to make it safe and efficient for maximum use
of the Library.
Negotiations are in progress for the purchase of the Wallace
Street properties but no definite agreements have been made. If the
City is successful is coordinating a sale of these properties with guaranteed
easements for access, multiple access points will be obtained for the Library
facilities.
Will the City use the right of imminent domain to obtain access to the
site?
The City does not have a history or preference for using
the right of imminent domain for land acquisitions.
Wouldn’t money be well spent buying Kirby R.V. and opening up the site?
If the site were opened the whole plan would work better.
Agreed, but no funds are currently available to buy these
properties.
Consider an overpass or underpass for pedestrians to cross Main Street
for children’s safety.
This would not be possible within the project budget.
However, by the time the Library is completed there should be a stop light
at the corner of Main and Wallace allowing safe crossing for all within
a half block of the Library.
Need Right and Left hand turns onto Main Street.
Look at pedestrian crossing and Main and Broadway.
The DT will investigate the potential for incorporating
these suggestions with the Montana Department of Transportation.
PARKING The snow storage for the parking lot snow plowing should be well thought
out and not create problems for circulation.
Parking may be a problem; it looks like space for snow storage especially
in the drop off area will be a problem.
Parking lot design makes snow removal difficult. Putting in the proposed
short islands at various intervals along the parking spaces (they appear
to run about four feet parallel to the front of an end space) means the
plows cannot plow the spaces from a north/south direction. The snow
in the spaces will have to then be plowed from an east/west direction into
the four to five foot wide swales, where the architect suggests trees would
be planted. Plowing the snow into the swales will almost certainly
damage the trees. Get rid of the islands or forget the trees.
The snow storage strategies will be developed without jeopardizing
traffic circulation.
Concerned about number of parking stalls and potential for expansion
as well as circulation flow problems.
Please allow for more parking spaces than shown in the new plans.
Need more parking on the south end of the site.
It seems that not providing the required amount of parking is a problem.
Parking may be inadequate. The architect leading the discussion indicated
the Bozeman code would probably require 250 spaces, but seemed confident
a variance could be obtained. She didn't disclose her reasoning for
expecting a variance. She indicated the code was based on spaces
per thousand foot of retail space while admitting that Library patrons
tend to occupy parking spaces longer that do retail customers.
I believe she noted the existing Library has about 65 spaces and that the
new Library would have 165 (for a building with twice the square footage).
If you consider the parking on both sides of both Rouse and Lamme adjacent
to the existing Library site, the parking (including the 54 spaces on the
Library grounds) totals about 90. Further, the street parking near
the existing Library is for more accessible than any potential parking
along Wallace, the only street apart from Main, that is even in the vicinity
of the new site. Even considering the additional 15 spaces that could
be added (per the architect) by paving over the drainage field at the east
side of the proposed parking, it seems that the parking at the new facility
is really not much greater than that at the existing location and is not
up to code.
The number of spaces shown in the October Public Integration
Meeting (165 spaces) may be inadequate but the amount required by
Code (240 spaces) is based on a suburban model and is not valid. The final
proposed amount may be somewhere in between 170 and 200 spaces.
The long walkway leading from the south side of the parking lot should
be covered and serve as a windbreak from winter winds. This is critical
since the walk looks relatively long.
The current schematic design does provide a covered walkway.
Consider underground parking to minimize the impact on the site.
Underground parking, we are short of fill, should this make underground
parking affordable?
It is almost certain that any kind of underground parking,
when compared to the cost of surface parking, will be difficult to accomplish
within the Library’s limited budget. This cost will be made even more expensive
because of the high water table and the associated waterproofing and drainage
systems that would be required.
Figure out how to expand parking and provide for it in the existing site
plan.
The DT will specifically define the parking expansion area
and show it on future site plans.
RVs should be restricted from parking at the Library.
The current parking lot plan would prohibit the parking
of vehicles the size of RVs, but some street side parking would be available
in the immediate area.
Provide immediate access to entries by elderly or handicapped patrons,
especially during inclement weather.
In accordance with governing codes and laws, six handicapped
parking spaces will be provided with immediate access to the entrances.
Will the Library parking lot be “over used” by Lindley Park/ trail users?
Use of the trail system would probably not conflict with
the Library’s busiest times. If it were to become a problem, we could address
it at that time. Spaces at the extreme south end of the lot are planned
to be designated for the trail users. Ultimately, the parking lot usage
will be determined by how the community chooses to use these new facilities.
Where will parking go in expansion phase?
The ultimate goal of the DT is to master plan the building
expansion so that parking areas are not lost.
HISTORICAL PAST The history of the depot and the importance of the rail lines should
be emphasized in the renovation.
Incorporate railroad elements into design.
Consider incorporating a steam locomotive or train car adjacent to the
depot as part of the design. The train car could be the seating area for
a restaurant.
During the design phase, an interpretive element on the
history of the site and a re-creation of a short section of the rail track
as a part of the site design will be explored further. Both of these items
will have a relatively low cost and consequently will have a high probability
of incorporation. Purchasing and renovating a rail car will have a much
higher cost involved and will be more difficult to accomplish within the
Library’s limited budget.
DEPOT The depot building should be used on Main Street as a restaurant with
café seating outside on Main Street. This will enliven the street
life in this area and serve as a great people-watching spot.
The depot should be used as a recreation center for the trail system
activities. Bike, skate and ski rentals with concessions could be provided.
Are we dragging a problem to Main Street with the depot? What
is the cost to save the depot?
Retain depot and enhance historical significance.
Kiss the old depot goodbye! Money to preserve any facet of this building
would be a waste and could be used much better elsewhere in the project.
Look at computer services and classes within the Depot.
I was surprised that there was not even an estimate from the architects
of the cost of moving the depot and cleaning the exterior. They further
failed to mention the need to completely replace the roof. The depot
may be historically significant and worth saving, but how can you begin
to make a cost/benefit analysis with the estimate to move and stabilize?
Yet the plan is to move it in front of the Library building, in hopes someone
will rent it out for a shop. Apparently the concept is that the depot is
either demolished or it is moved to the north end of the site. Given
that there is little foot traffic on the south side of Main, it makes more
sense to locate the depot on the south of the Library, where at least it
will benefit from the foot traffic from the Library parking. Have you looked
into whether or not the Transportation Equity Act (TEA-21), now being considered
for reauthorization, would provide any funds for renovation of the depot?
I believe there have been past cases where grants from this Act were used
to preserve and renovate historic rail depots where they were now used
in connection with pedestrian and bicycle paths. If reauthorized,
this might be a source of some funding.
We are committed to utilizing the depot in some manner,
either as a viable building element or by breaking the building apart and
utilizing the parts within the new project. During the design phase, strategies
to relocate and renovate the depot into a fully functional building will
be explored further. Accomplishing this will be difficult to achieve within
the Library’s limited budget so the success of these ideas will be contingent
upon finding private businesses or other public entities who would financially
help to make this happen. An interim solution that will be explored further
is the strategy to relocate the depot, stabilize it structurally and pursue
business opportunities that would allow the building to be developed in
the future.
If the depot is torn down, use the bricks as a fundraising tool with names
of donors imprinted on the bricks.
If the depot is torn down, use the bricks on the interior or exterior
of the new building.
I would like to see the old depot preserved or incorporated in some
way.
If strategies to relocate and renovate the depot prove to
be infeasible within the Library’s limited budget, these ideas will be
explored as a minimum strategy to reuse, remember and incorporate the depot.
EXTERIOR BUILDING DESIGN The design should relate to the historical context of Main Street.
The design should be compatible with the masonry context of Main Street
i.e. brick in the red/tan/brown ranges with rusticated stone like granite.
Saw picture in paper, looks like the ugly building for the Food Co-op.
North façade entry needs to be more of a statement and a greeting.
North Elevation is “Too Busy.”
North elevation should reflect more grandeur and permanence. A
dashing statement can be made to reflect the vibrancy of our community.
The building should complement the depot in historic design. Possibly
move it and tie other historic brick buildings in Downtown Bozeman.
This is a graceless building that seems better suited to be built in much
warmer climes.
MSU campus building, such as the original part of the Strand Union Building,
would make an ideal inspiration. The current exterior design is really
ugly- the psuedo industrial look is inappropriate for either outside
or inside (i.e. exposed recycled beams, etc) Please build a building
with lasting beauty and grace, don’t saddle Bozeman with this Design!!
Sorry, but the North Elevation looks like a 1960s Eastern European Airport
Terminal with Red Brick. How about double hung windows and the like
as in keeping with old Main Street? The old opera house entry is
down at the city yard on N. Rouse. Maybe you could incorporate that
into the Main Street Elevation.
The north façade seems to want a more commanding presence.
Your schemes make perfect sense if seen from within the paradigm of
“Green Design,” the deep-set, open space obsessed principles aren’t as
sensible or desirable. I believe your project is, on balance, overly
concept-driven. The drive to provide an innovative building is not
inspiring, because innovation isn’t necessarily WARM, as in congenial to
Main Street and our community identity in the urban sense. This building
is first and foremost an addition to the civic fabric, and I don’t believe
a demonstration project or concept building adequately addresses the need
for some elegance, wit, and let’s hope beauty on or nearly on Main street.
Please resist an arid conceptualism or pedantic display of “smart” materiality.
People need buildings that interact with them, with their bodies and their
need to be accepted by these objects that serve them. Warm the building,
honor Main, and design for human needs (not ideas about processes).
I’m not suggesting a slavish historicism or eclectic nostalgia but rather
a building that is of its time but also acknowledges where it is, on a
140 year old main commercial arterial street, that is home to other buildings
of stature and importance (I would apologize for my bluntness here
but I’ve been to a couple of fifth-year student design critiques, I’m soft
by comparison).
Look to incorporate the historic character of Bozeman within the interior,
ornamentation, embellishment, varieties of shapes and patterns.
The green elements are excellent and make sense as presented, but further
thought should be addressed to the aesthetics and also how the form relates
to our latitude.
The design should relate to the historical context of Main Street.
Future elevations should have patterning that relates to the historic
context of downtown buildings and respect the character of Main Street.
The proposed east elevation looks to be beautifully designed, from the
aesthetics of the building to the incorporation of the natural setting
of irrigation ditch, ponds and Lindley Park.
You have failed to make it formal. Can you imagine looking back at the
Library from Main Street through the towers of wind generators and Aspen
trees for shade? Perhaps the use of more formal plant material and moving
the towers for the wind generators to the south of the building would help.
Whatever choice you make, on Main Street or set back, you need to make
it more formal.
The LB/DT believes that it is very important to relate to
the rich environment that is Main Street Bozeman. The design should express
the qualities that people love about Main Street and at the same time be
a contemporary statement of the time in which it is built. If we truly
become a model of the Library for the 21st Century, it should look like
one. Masonry will certainly be a major part of this expression but not
as a re-creation of the visual elements of the existing buildings, most
of which were built prior to 1940. Masonry will be used, primarily on the
north elevation, in a contemporary way to create shade and shadow, three-dimensionality,
and a visually interesting composition. The quality of these materials
should also convey permanence, craftsmanship and civic importance.
We will strive to create a beautiful contemporary building that respects
its historical and physical context.
As can be seen from the range of comments above, our community does
not speak with one voice on the matter of building aesthetic. We
range from the intellectual and philosophical to the very pragmatic with
strong conviction by all who submitted comments. This will be the
most difficult aspect of the project to reach consensus around. In
the coming weeks we will study a variety of building forms and expressions
that capture the feeling of Main Street and address some of these concerns.
Some of these studies will be presented at the next public meeting on November
7th along with our recommendations for your consideration.
What is the “Beehive on top of the clock tower?
This is a proposal for the exhaust element used in the “night
flushing” technique for summer cooling. It is only a study idea that will
need further consideration and refinement of detail if included in the
project.
SUNLIGHT AND VIEWS Capturing the views to the north and the Bridgers would be nice for
some of the reading rooms. The views to the south are also nice and should
be taken advantage of.
Where are the views of the mountains?
The current plans will create a reading room on the second
floor along the north side that will have unparalleled views of the Bridgers.
Is the northeast corner the best for children’s area? Needs natural light.
Where is the southern exposure?
Southside exposure for spaces such as children’s area, if building is
closer to street can we get more southern exposure.
Children are in school when the days are shorter, after school functions
are the spaces well lit w/ sunlight? Children’s area should be in
sunlight. Explore ideas of light shafts, a hole in the 2nd floor,
which brings daylight deep into the children’s area. Children’s area is
in shade the later half of the day.
South side of Building needs to be addressed, children’s park space.
Children’s area on the Northeast corner building seems like it will
be rather cold, for much of the year. What about using all the wonderful
areas to the SOUTH! =SUNSHINE! How great to be in the SUNNY SOUTHSIDE
of the building.
Daylighting within the children’s area should be provided. Look
at light wells, or light shafts, also consider a courtyard space that can
bring light into the north side of the building.
Some type of patio or deck on the southern end of the Library for reflective
reading or quiet visiting would be a nice connection and an alternative
to the more lively Main Street connection on the north.
In total, there are many compelling reasons for locating
the children’s area in its present location. These relate to shared
functions with the meeting rooms, view into the park, and view out to areas
that are lit by the sun rather than viewing the sun directly. South
spaces warmed by the sun are most appealing for many uses and for all ages;
unfortunately the logical development of the site with respect to circulation,
available land area, and association with Lindley Park make it difficult
to get a great deal of space on the south side of the building. We
will be looking at increasing the amount of south facing spaces and adding
an outdoor space on the south side, but it probably will not be possible
to bring the children’s area to this side due to other compelling considerations.
Look at ways to reflect natural light within the building.
With regards to the large amount of windows….How will the Library collection
be protected from the extended light exposure? How will patrons be protected
from blinding light? The current Library closes their drapes at times
because patrons are bothered by direct sunlight.
The design goal will be to provide diffuse but plentiful
natural lighting. Because of this, a large southern exposure will be disadvantageous.
Direct sunlight will not only be problematic for the users but the Library
staff has stated that diffuse rather than direct sunlight is desirable
to reduce UV degradation of the Library materials. Protected clerestory
lighting along with translucent glazing systems (see note below) will be
major strategies in achieving this diffuse daylighting. Also, most children’s
programs are in the morning, and their space will be beautifully lit with
the eastern sun.
How much will it cost to heat the large exhibit of North and East facing
windows?
There are potential problems with the amount of glazing on the east
side of the building. Over heating and glare in the summer while
energy loss in the winter.
The areas that are being designed as window walls will include
a large percentage of translucent glazing systems, not glass. These types
of systems can be provided with an insulating value of R-20 that still
allows a high light transmittance. The light that comes through these types
of systems is diffuse, glare-free and perfect for libraries. Vision glass
will be strategically placed within the window wall to achieve the visual
connection with the park areas and selected views.
Provide a program to recruit the children of the community to paint glass
tiles, which would be mounted on the east windows of the children’s area.
This would provide a colorful screen that fills the area with color in
the morning light.
The DT will pursue the possibility of incorporating this
idea for not only aesthetic reasons but also as a vehicle for public ownership
of the spaces.
BUILDING FUNCTION Separating the computers from the “book” areas as much as possible
is kind to both types of users. Remember that the “book” aspect of
the Library is likely to not change its character much in the next 50 years
compared to the computer use, which may change dramatically in 10 years.
Both the role of the Library in providing internet to the public and the
hardware it is provided on may change beyond recognition. Therefore
make the computer areas adaptable so they can grow.
Try to isolate the computers so that the atmosphere can be conducive
to concentration.
Two enclosed computer labs are planned in the Library program.
There will also be computers spread throughout the Library that will primarily
be used to access the catalog. Computer jacks will be as plentiful as electrical
outlets.
Provide vestibules at the main entry as an airlock during the winter. Also,
try to make the meeting rooms available as much as possible to the general
public beyond the Library’s general hours.
The current plans incorporate these features.
Provide areas for stroller parking.
An area will be provided somewhere near the main entrance
for stroller parking.
Coffee shop is an amenity not a necessity. There is a new coffee shop across
the street.
The coffee shop should be integrated within the building.
Could the coffee shop could be used for additional meeting space or
Library space.
The coffee shop is designed to serve two functions, one
as a coffee/gathering space as well as for an ongoing book sale/Library
gift shop. If these functions are not successful, it could be converted
to serve another purpose.
I like how you don’t have to touch any door handles to use the restrooms
at this Library and would like to see that in the new Library too.
Due to the noise factors, it is preferable to have doors
on the restrooms. Door handles known as hospital latches will be installed
on the doors, which will allow hands-free operation.
The children’s area should be very open and have a “living room” quality.
There are lounge areas with couches and comfortable chairs
planned throughout the children’s area. Natural daylighting and the desire
for a warm and welcoming environment throughout the entire Library will
also contribute to this “living room” quality.
The circulation desk should be as centrally located as possible.
The current plans incorporate a centrally located circulation
desk.
Consider how to accommodate voting day activities at the Library.
The Library has a been a polling site for many years and
provided election day materials for voter education. With a larger meeting
room and additional parking, the Library will better accommodate voters.
Provide an area in the Library designated for small musical groups. This
space could be out of the way but visible and should be strategically placed
to fill the main reading room space with sound. Hopefully, the Library
will be become a favorite after hours spot for chamber music performances
and such.
The “Third Sunday at Three” program has been well received,
and opportunities to expand this type of amenity will be pursued in the
current plans.
I question the wisdom of “tree houses” for children. Will this create
a liability problem? Also, the rock structure outside in the public
meeting area-this will be attractive to children for a climbing gym.
Like the thoughts of tree play areas! Check out Sacajawea Park
in Livingston.
The tree house element of the children’s area could be wonderful, not
sure about the outdoor play area.
We envision small inviting reading and gathering places
for children; no definite design has been established.
Please have one aisle leading up to the check out counter like they do
in banks. Thank You.
I resent waiting in line and then have someone step in front of me and
get waited on. In the new Library, please have a controlled line.
We do plan to provide this queuing ability. Also, there
are plans for three self-checkout stations, which patrons can use themselves.
A bigger Young Adult sections, for more Young Adult books, I feel I’ve
read all of the ones worth reading.
The new Young Adult area will be twice the size of the current
area with more seating and shelving for 5,000 items.
Please consider a quiet space for “Books + Babies” and other children’s
events.
Children’s events will be held in the two meeting rooms
depending on the size of the group, both of which are adjacent to and easily
accessible from the children’s area. These rooms will be acoustically separated
from the rest of the Library.
Provide a couple of community meeting rooms.
Need a large community room.
The current plans incorporate community meeting rooms.
Need a suitable KBMC studio.
The new studio will be one-and-one-half times the size of
the current studio and will be designed by Yellowstone Public Radio to
their specifications.
As you know, the Water Department samples the water throughout the City
of Bozeman every day. We prefer locations that are public and open
every day where we can have the key. I propose a small room with
an outside only entrance at the new Library where the water and sewer enter
the new building for the water meter/fire line/backflow preventer, and
a sample site (sink w/sewer) for use by City of Bozeman personnel.
We would like to continue this procedure at new government and public buildings
that meet our requirements. Buildings such as libraries, fire stations,
city shops, professional buildings, community centers, malls (a small building
in the parking lot where water and sewer enter the project), etc. could
work well.
The DT will explore during the design phase how this can
be accommodated once the location for the water and sewer access points
are determined.
Any chance the new Library might include a “listening alcove” with CD player
and earphones? It might cut down on some of the abuse the CDs get
and keep some CDs in house if it were an option to listen to parts first
just a thought.
Current plans for the interior already include several listening
areas on the first floor.
Since an elevator is expensive anyway, why not have support space in basement?
The aspect of incorporating a basement has been raised by
several sources and will be investigated during the design phase. Due to
the high water table, the cost of waterproofing a basement may be prohibitive
to the Library’s limited budget. Our location in the flood plain may also
prohibit a basement by code.
Throughout the building, remember some of us users are legally blind.
We need signage, restrooms, conference rooms that are of a format that
work for us.
The entire facility will be designed in accordance with
all Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) standards. There currently is
a member of the Program and Design Subcommittee who is disabled and
will represent people with disabilities.
Space is needed for one-on-one meetings that are private. For example,
adult literacy tutoring currently has no consistently available space.
Provide more teaching space, not individual desks.
The current program calls for five study/tutor rooms throughout
the Library.
Need a genealogy section on second floor.
The Library does not include genealogy as one of its major
roles. Patrons are referred to the LDS Church collection. Our small genealogy
section will be housed in the circulating collection.
Make sure that the computer system facility incorporates encryption, a
secure central server, and wireless systems.
A technology committee will be formed to work with the Library
staff and the City Network System Administrator to incorporate a state-of-the-art
computer network in our new Library.
Why is the children’s area three times the size of the Young Adults?
The children’s area provides materials and programs for
ages 0-12 and their families, requiring a larger space than Young Adults.
Is there a possibility of incorporating the young adults upstairs?
Young adults have access to the entire Library. A teen advisory
group will be working to design the space to meet their needs. Library
literature shows that YA should be located near popular materials. In addition,
the YA area is supervised by the children’s Library staff, thereby explaining
its proximity to the Children’s Library.
Are the meeting rooms big enough for the facility and future expansion?
The current large meeting room has a capacity for 73 and
the proposed large meeting room has a capacity for 140. The smaller meeting
room will hold 30. By doubling the capacity of the large meeting room,
future demands should be accommodated for years to come.
The tutor rooms are constantly in use, they need closed-door spaces, not
open cubicles.
The tutorial rooms are planned as closed-door spaces.
Technology related question: Can large meeting room be set up with
teleconferencing capabilities?
The DT is currently working with the City’s Network System
Administator and is planning on incorporating teleconferencing capabilities
if the budget allows.
Look at orienting the book stacks so that you walk with them, not against
them.
Book stack layout will be driven by security and supervision
factors along with opening up the views to the exterior and facilitating
natural daylighting.
Make sure periodical seating areas are big enough.
Adequate seating and a comfortable atmosphere are a high
priority in the current program.
The entry into the children’s area should be more open.
Due to security and noise concerns, the prevailing requests
by parents and other patrons call for some sense of separation rather than
openness. It is a major goal to create a special and inviting entrance
into the children’s room.
Look at step down seating for children’s story area.
Due to safety concerns and desire for flexibility, the children’s
story area is planned to be as multi-purpose as possible, which would call
for a flat floor.
Kids need changing areas, are the locations convenient.
Changing tables will be provided in the first floor restrooms.
The interior space needs to be warm: Inviting human space, not a
factory and industrial, a livable space, warm…
This will be defined with the materials used, color and
texture palette, natural daylighting and connection with the beautiful
outdoor setting.
Consider the addition of a wireless computer router in the building whereby
laptop computers with “AirPort” cards could access the internet anywhere
on the site. Even out on the lawn.
This will be investigated with the City’s Network System
Administrator.
BUILDING EXPANSION Consider building vertically for the long-range expansions.
Entire second floor above popular collection should be structurally
available for expansion.
Structure should be designed to go up not out. Columns should
be sized to accommodate another floor for future expansion.
Look at raising north elevation to three floors as well as creating
vaulted shell space for expansion to the east. Move services functions
to 3rd floor, views to north, etc…
The Library staff has reiterated numerous times that a three-level
Library will demand more staffing and have a large impact on operating
budgets. The ultimate design solution with regards to staffing was stated
as a one-story scheme but this led to a very spread-out facility, given
its 50,000 square feet program. The DT has worked closely with the Library
staff in developing the current two-level scheme and feels it has a very
functional layout but going to three levels would not be workable. Vertical
expansions are also some of the most difficult to perform. The current
site was also purchased because of the large amount of open, flat area.
Because of these reasons, expansion plans will probably be developed with
a horizontal, not vertical, emphasis.
Expansion needs to be looked at seriously, as well as snow storage.
Look at using shell space for future expansion.
I feel that the way you have provided for future expansion of the building
is practical and functional.
There is concern about the central growth area. Look at expanding
beyond current envelope as well as flexible core area space.
The expansion plans will be defined before the end of the
design phase. Shell spaces would be the ideal strategy for providing expansion
space but will be included only if the budget allows.
How would a second phase contractor access the site for future construction?
The parking lot expansion would probably be built first
and used as a staging area for the building expansion.
CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK What expertise does your contractor have in library construction?
Martel Construction has completed school libraries for approximately
thirty-five projects and built the current Bozeman Public Library on Lamme.
What is the cost of pre-construction services? Is it worth it? Isn’t the
contractor just doing the architect’s job?
The cost for the pre-construction services is approximately
$14,000. Overland Partners contract amount will be reduced by this amount
with those overlapping services removed from their Scope of Work. The benefits
of reduced Change Orders and proactive scheduling have been well documented
on several of the public projects executed by Martel Construction using
the Construction Manager At Risk method, such as the Hamilton and Ronan
school projects.
What is the Change Order budget?
Approximately 2-3% of the bid budget will be carried as
a Change Order budget into the construction phase.
SUSTAINABLE STRATEGIES - GENERAL I am writing to ask if the committee has considered using “green” architecture
to make the new Library building environmentally sound and energy efficient.
“Green” technologies include recycled building materials, new types of
insulation and use of alternative energies such as solar to reduce energy
costs and use less power in general. While I am no expert on “green”
architecture, I am aware that adherence to its principles can drastically
reduce energy needs and impact on the environment. I think that the
new Library would be a wonderful showcase; the Library could save a lot
of money in the long run. If you would like more information about
“green” architecture and building design, I would be happy to contact people
more knowledgeable than myself to provide you with the necessary information.
Thank you for your time, and I hope that you will consider making the new
Library building a “green” building.
The LB/DT are committed to making this an exemplary project
with regards to green design. Ultimately, systems and strategies will be
analyzed for long-term value with regards to budget constraints.
Please don’t have scraggly indoor plants. They don’t do well without
enough light.
Healthy indoor plants will go a long way to creating the
warm and inviting space that has been requested by many. Natural daylighting
will serve the double function of keeping the plants healthy and
reducing lighting bills.
Why didn’t the green building get built at MSU? Was it too expensive?
The MSU green building had an ambitious program with many
cutting edge systems. The fundraising for construction dollars fell short
but much to its credit, the fundraising for green research and development
programs was successful, leading to several new innovations. Ultimately,
the MSU Green Building was abandoned due to scope creep. The building
started out to be a $12 million project with space to meet critical needs
at MSU. It ended up being an $80 million project housing several
departments and many uses that could not provide the funding for their
inclusion in the project. These units forced their way into the program
since it was very clear how superior the building, if built, was going
to be.
What is the cost to obtain the Certified LEED level?
The LEED Registration fee is $350 and the LEED Certification
fee is $1,200. Both of these fees are the reduced rate for members since
Overland Partners maintains a membership with the U.S. Green Building Council.
The cost to the building construction will be directly related to the LEED
level that is attained. The four levels that currently exist in LEED Version
2.1 are Certified, Silver, Gold and Platinum, with Platinum being the highest.
The LB/DT currently believe that a Certified or Silver level can be attained
within the Library’s limited budget. It is hoped that the Fundraising Campaign
may identify a potential donor who is specifically interested in funding
this aspect of the project.
Given the very practical and conservative nature of our Montana heritage,
it is important that “Green” elements be functional and not just window
dressing. MSU is an engineering university and “FLUFF” is not appropriate.
We have many new residents and it would not be appropriate to build something
an old farmer/rancher would feel is imported from California.
All of the systems and strategies proposed would not only
be functional but highly educational and visible. The systems will reinforce
the attitude that our natural resources are not infinite but are in fact
finite and should be used with great stewardship. This is a foundational
concept that farming and ranching has been based on in Montana for many
decades. Given the love that almost all Montanans have for their physical
environment, this is a natural fit.
MSU is a comprehensive land grant university with many excellent
programs including engineering, architecture, sciences, agriculture, and
education among others. All elements included in the building will
be deemed important or they will not be included, but not all elements
will be strictly functional in a physical sense. For instance, there will
be art in the building, which serves many important non-physical functions.
There are potential problems with heating and cooling such great volumes
of space.
Ways to reduce volume will be investigated during the design
phase.
SUSTAINABLE STRATEGIES – RECYCLED
MATERIALS The wooden buildings at the south end of the site should be torn down
and recycled into the project as much as possible.
This will be investigated.
What are the additional costs for recycled timbers?
According to several suppliers of recycled timbers in our
region, recycled timbers are roughly the same cost as new wood timbers
kiln-dried to the same moisture content.
Who recycles cardboard in the Gallatin Valley?
Almost all recycling centers in the area take cardboard
such as Recycle-It off Oak Street and the community bins like the ones
at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Van’s County Market and other locations.
“Recycled Materials” should not be used to such a ridiculous extent.
If the product with recycled material is aesthetically
pleasing, performs well and can be purchased within the project budget,
it should be considered. Bozeman’s own landfill is in the news since it
is nearly full and is indicative of landfills across America. We have become
the most wasteful and consumptive society on earth, and hopefully this
project will educate some people towards new attitudes regarding the use
and reuse of natural resources.
SUSTAINABLE STRATEGIES – WATER What about a central ridgeline with cisterns on both sides? It
would run N-to-S with catchments on either side. Thus would eliminate
unsightly flat roof and allow southern exposure at gable end.
This is a scenario that could be explored in the design
phase.
Your gutters will freeze in the winter.
If in the final design, we have sloped roofs with gutters,
they will be specified to be made of very dark metals, such as Cor-ten
steel, which will absorb solar radiation and melt the ice within.
Very low-pitched roofs have historically been extremely problematic with
the large snowfall and cold weather here. I have great reservation about
the prudence of such a roof.
The size of the building footprint will prohibit the use
of high-pitched roofs. It will be important to detail and specify a roofing
system that is specially designed for low-slope conditions.
Research humidity control systems that would be appropriate for a library.
Use recycled or collected water for a humidifier application.
Look at incorporating water elements within the building. Transparent
roof drains or any other system that could provide white noise and interior
interaction.
The DT will investigate what levels of humidity are best
for libraries and whether collected water can be utilized as an interior
humidifying or white noise system.
SUSTAINABLE STRATEGIES – RENEWABLE
ENERGY Are the wind turbines blocking or breaking up elevation and views?
Look at expanding the possibility for wind turbine locations around
the site, i.e. the parking area.
Practical/financial visibility of wind generation meadow is it viable.
Can it be made aesthetically acceptable?
Windmills in the front yard? Maybe that’s a good idea but maybe
they could go on the roof.
The windmill idea is both ugly and impractical. The cost of this far
outweighs the benefits. The maintenance of these would be more than the
energy saving. It is a good way to placate the environmental wishes but
not functional at this site.
How much wind are you really going to get?
Carefully study wind patterns. You may not have enough to make
generators spin. This site is not known for wind and is protected
by terrain, trees and buildings.
I have grave concerns about using technology as fluff. If the wind generators
are not really going to work at this location then what are we teaching.
Please use green or sustainable technology that works for this region,
then it is truly a teaching tool. I am all for as much sustainable technology
as possible, but I don’t want people to come away saying, it looks cool,
but it doesn’t work.
The amount of wind at the site is a moderate source of renewable
energy. The wind generators are relatively low cost, have a low maintenance
factor and a long life. Because of these reasons, it is desired to
use only a few of them mainly as an educational tool. A design would be
selected that is aesthetically pleasing and could almost be displayed as
a kinetic sculpture. The wind generators resembling airplane propellers
would not be used. Locations on the roof and in the parking lot will
be investigated.
How much to purchase a 50 kilowatt package?
The proposed 50 kilowatt photovoltaic system would cost
approximately $370,000. We are pursuing a grant from NorthWestern Energy
help fund this part of the project. Photovoltaics are systems that produce
electricity directly from sunlight.
The Baltimore Building has a solar wall, does it work?
SUSTAINABLE STRATEGIES – INDOOR
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY Please do a tile or polished concrete floor (saves money) so people
with asthma or chemical sensitivities won’t get sick from the new carpet
chemical and glue off-gassing.
Look at how the material selection within the building will affect sound
pollution from space to space. Make sure you study noise transmission
within the building.
I am chemically sensitive and am concerned about the new Library (i.e.
new carpeting, glues, particle board, etc.) Please consider this growing
problem in your construction and I will volunteer to assist your team with
my info on non-toxic products, manufacturers, cost info, etc.
Because a lot of hard surfaces may lead to a noisy Library,
carpet will probably be used in numerous areas. Specifications for not
only carpet but also for the adhesives, sealants and paints will be closely
looked at to minimize off-gassing.
SUSTAINABLE STRATEGIES – MATERIAL
SELECTION Look at using straw bale systems for both building and landscaping
elements. There is the possibility for a “Community Bale Raising”
event that would help offset costs.
Look at using as many local materials as possible to help stimulate
the local economy and also support sustainability.
Look at bringing nature into the wall systems. Look at art and
earthen materials of our climate and culture.
Curvilinear walls would be a nice addition, more of an organic response.
The DT will investigate all of these ideas during the design
phase.
GENERAL COMMENTS This community is proud to be a part of a library project like this.
What a great project!
The site plan and basic layout look very good. I like the way the building
fits on the site and capitalizes on the surroundings.
Please keep it simple.
I like the open feel with lots of natural light.
The amount of work accomplished so far is quite impressive!
The solar collection, wind generation and water recycling is laudable
and necessary.
There is too much emphasis for me on playing and socializing. I prefer
it to be one quiet place where I can go in this town. I like bringing in
the outdoors and the green building ideas. Turning left to leave the Library
(on Main Street) and easy parking are important. Thanks for trying so hard
to be receptive to the public’s opinion.
Fundraising ideas – how about monthly automatic withdrawals? You could
have individuals check off a box where they would like to see the money
go, such as, landscaping, sustainable elements, general building, etc.
Once enough money is made in any given category it would begin going into
a general building fund. It could be sent in water bills and to all Library
cardholders. It would be great if banks could participate by waiving any
processing fees.
Thank you all for your participation. The project will be
so much better because you cared enough to share your time and thoughts
with us. Together, we will have a great new Library.
Alice Meister,
Director 220 East Lamme, Bozeman, Montana 59715
(406) 582-2400 · TDD 582-2301
Hours: Monday -Thursday 10:00-8:00, Friday and
Saturday 10:00-5:00 Send suggestions and comments to
Pam Henley at mtb@mtlib.org
Last updated: 8/22/02
